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7 Treatment Options
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9 Questions

Elsa, a brilliant report!
Kenneth Roberts

Getting Hold of

Covid - from Fear
to Empowerment?

NY Governor Cuomo -
Criminal Charges?

I Can Tell Truth from Lies:
the Biggest Delusion

From Cultural Patricide
to the Murder-Suicide
of the West

How to Combat

The New Nazis:
The Politically Correct

The Mecca Years:

Thou Shalt Not
Be Aware

The Truth
as You See it

Love Letter
to Counter-Jihadis

Love Letter
to Truth-Tellers

Socially vs
Personally Actualized

Dead Mockingbird


When You Meet
a Hobbit


Vipers in God Clothing

Canaries in the
Anti-Truth Coal Mine

Nothing to Do
with Hate Speech

Proof that all opinions
are not equal.
Out with relativism and
other bad thinking.


John O'Sullivan
John O'Sullivan

Joe Olson
Joe Olson

Saeed Qureshi
John O'Sullivan

Tommy Robinson
Tommy Robinson

Bill Warner
Bill Warner



Diana West
Diana West

Brian of London
Brian of London

Anne Marie Waters
Anne Marie Waters

Danny Hozack
Danny Hozack

Craig Rucker
Craig Rucker

Potential interview topics: bad thinking, keys to good thinking, Islam, climate, Communism, the EU, the UN, anti-Semitism, capitalism, political correctness, cultural relativism, populism, moral relativism, infiltration, national borders, refugee resettlement, lawfare, justice systems, tarsands, oil, natural gas, economy, G5, medicine, cancer, cannabis, healing energy, Google, Youtube, Facebook, brainwashing and unbrainwashing ...


The goal: to turn us all into warriors for good thinking.

Target One: bad thinking in the education system.

Target Two: bad thinking - meaning not fact-centered and/or illogical - on every topic.

Target Three: destructive anti-learning tactics like name-calling instead of fact-checking.

Tools: facts, logic, and fact-based feeling, plus personal strengths like courage and persistence.


Forget about bats, Wuhan,
wet markets, the CCP and WHO.
Here is Question #1.

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Covid-19. Where does the virus come from? Is it human-engineered or naturally occurring? That's not question #1.

How did it first get to humans - through a wet market, a disgruntled employee, the deliberate spread by the CCP? That's not question #1.

How long did the CCP know before reporting to the world? How long did W.H.O. know? Again, that's not question #1.

I've read loads of detective novels. Rule #1: pay attention to what isn't getting attention.

Question #1. How effective is the protocol of Dr Zelenko, as presented in an interview with Rudy Giuliani, March 28, 2020?

At that time, almost 400 people had been treated with his protocol. Zero deaths, 4 hospitalizations, zero intubations.

Establishing (or discounting) the effectiveness of the protocol - that's the top priority.

On April 28, there was a major update. The protocol was unchanged. Now almost 1000 people had been treated. Expected deaths: 20-40. Deaths with the protocol: one - a person ill with leukemia. In other words, the death rate was cut by between 95% and 97.5% from the expected death rate.

Even if the death rate had been cut just in half, that would have been significant. But that it was cut by over 90% - that's fantastic.

Before going on to the protocol, I'm adding brand new information from an interview from May 27. Dr Zelenko has almost completed a study, now almost finalized. It follows every rule of research, so the protocol will be proven to have validity, according to science. It should be available to download within couple of weeks, even if it is only published in an academic journal a few weeks after that.

In the interview, Dr Zelenko also informs people that he has started Crowd Protocol, a completely new way of performing research, drawing on data in real time from a huge number of primary care physicians, plus a space for patients to give their voice, even if this does not provide conclusive evidence. Traditional double blind studies are not acceptable when, for instance, we know the negative results from no intervention.

In the US, a study he started with St Francis Hospital, on Long Island, has now gone national. So everyone in the US who qualifies should be able to call in, qualify, and have the medication shipped to them. Vital: everyone in the study gets hydroxychloroquine and zinc. The difference is that half the people get Azithromycin, and half get a different antiobiotic. American residents: you can call 516 414-3056.

Now, here is Dr Zelenko's protocol:

The treatment is a five day course, starting early in the illness, when there is shortness of breath. It is given to people who are over 60, and/or have co-morbidities such as diabetes, etc. In other words, the protocol is given outside a hospital setting, before there is any need for hospital admission.

The protocol is administered by or before day 5 of the presence of symptoms. On day 6, in vulnerable people, the symptoms are likely to intensify dramatically, making the illness much harder to treat. Also permanent lung damage and kidney damage becomes much more likely.

The protocol:
Hydroxychloroquine - 200 mg twice a day
Zinc sulphate - 220 mg once a day
Zithromax (Azithromycin) - 500 mg once a day

About zinc: you need 50 mg of elemental zinc. In zinc sulphate, it's 23%, so you need 220 mg a day. In zinc glucamate, it's 13%, so almost twice that (about 400 mg once a day). In other words, check how much elemental zinc is in your compound, and ensure you get 50 mg of elemental zinc.

What to take prophylactically? Dr Zelenko mentions taking one dose of Hydroxychloroquine and one dose of zinc sulphate once a week,

In the interview from May 28, Dr Zelenko announced that a product similar to Hydroxychloroquine has also had excellent results, according to anecdotal accounts. This is Quercetin.

Like Hydroxychloroquine, Quercetin is an ionophore, a molecule that can carry a charged ion like zinc across a cellular membrane. In other words, it helps transport zinc where it needs to go, into the virus. And as zinc is anti-viral, presto, we get dead virus.

How much Quercetin to take? In my online research, I saw 500 mg twice a day recommended.

Quercetin is available to all. It can be found in health good stores.

Note: Dr Zelenko has not had much experience with it, so he is not able to recommend it. From what he has seen and heard, no one taking it prophylactically has fallen ill with Covid.

Before going on to verifying the findings, here is a bit of background.

First, there is evidence the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) knew, at least since 2005, about the effectiveness of chloroquine against corona viruses.

Then, Dr Zelenko is not the only medical professional recommending and using hydroxychloroquine. By early April, a French doctor, Didier Raoult, a 68-year-old French infectious-disease specialist, had treated over 2400 patients with a very successful outcome. He also conducted a study, with impressive results, mentioning the use of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, but not zinc sulphate (if used, the report does not mention it), with 1061 patients. One of Dr Raoult's videos got over 1,000,000 views. He has met with the French president, Macron.

As for Dr Zelenko, he did research when he was first faced with patients with the symptoms of the Covid-19. He found 2 treatments that showed success in in small-scale studies. He tried them. Neither was fully effective. So he tried combining the 2 treatments. This was far more effective than using either alone. In fact, his success rate is the highest I have found. He immediately did what he could to bring the protocol to public attention, including through videos, interviews, and an open letter to Trump and other high-level officials.

Early in April, I came upon his interview with Rudy Giuliani and was impressed.

Much more information is available, should you want to do further research.

Now, on to the question that follows naturally from Question #1.

Question #2. How best do we check the findings on a large scale? In other words, how replicable are the findings?

Obviously blind studies are out of the question. Those not getting the protocol would be submitted to a hugely higher risk of serious illness and death - a death rate 20-40 times as high as those getting the protocol. Not acceptable.

So how could verification be done?

Easy. Doctors would prescribe the protocol to patients who want it, record the results, and submit them to more than one central agency, or data center, etc. Huge numbers of results would be generated.

(By the way, why submit the results to more than one agency? Because I don't trust any single agency.)

The controls can come from past statistics and/or people who are diagnosed and who, for whatever reason, do not get the protocol.

Why are the core questions about a protocol that has an incredible recovery rate?

A major goal of medicine to get us back to health should we fall ill.

Questions #1 and #2 are about getting as many people back to health as quickly as possible, should we fall ill with Covid-19, including through verifying a protocol established as successful by one doctor, with similar or identical protocols verified by others doctors - a protocol by now prescribed by many doctors worldwide, where this is permitted.

As an everyday person who wants health, I say: our health is priority one.

The authorities claim to care but actions speak louder than anything else. A huge number of authorities are blocking access to the medication. That brings us to the next question.



It should be very easy to get the drug. It's been on the market for decades. It's been prescribed widely for several reasons - to prevent malaria, and to treat illnesses including rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Side effects are known and generally minor. Doctors know what to watch out for.

But instead of easy access, there are often roadblocks.

So how de we get hold of the medication? It's such an important question that I deal with it separately.


I will come back to that question at the end, so if you can wait, continue here to Questions #3 to #9.

Question #3. How are the governments of different countries responding to information regarding hydroxychloroquine? How have elected and non-elected government representatives responded - prime ministers, governors, heads of health boards, etc?

In many countries, states, provinces, access has been blocked, denied.

For instance, in the United States, Trump got millions of doses of hydroxychloroquine. The New York governor, Cuomo, demanded and got one million - and denied people access until they were so sick they needed hospitalization. In other words, he blocked use of the protocol - akin to blocking use of the fire department for small fires, demanding that the whole house be on fire before any fire engine could be sent. In some American states, doctors have been informed that they will have their licenses revoked if they prescribe it.

In Australia, a multi-millionaire bought millions of doses, had them flown to Australia. They are in a central stockpile. Getting access is impossible for many citizens. In the state where a friend lives, no doctor is allowed to prescribe it for Covid-19. He is drinking large quantities of tonic water.

In the UK, to date anyway - May 27 - the National Health Service (NHS) does not permit the use of hydroxychloroquine. Their prime minister, Boris Johnson, almost died from Covid-19. He was not given hydroxychloroquine even when he was in intensive care. Actually Trump had 2 specialists fly to the UK with treatment, and within 48 hours, Johnson went from intensive care to being released from hospital. I have heard speculation that his turnaround was due to hydroxychloroquine. Johnson himself, on his release from hospital, only praised his country's health services and his wonderful nurses.

Check regarding what is happening in your area. If there are blocks, at what level are they happening? Are doctors, for instance, permitted to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for conditions other than Covid-19? Is it only allowed when, in most cases, it is too late to be helpful, when someone is so ill they need hospitalization?

Question #4: what can be done to government officials who have been instrumental in blocking access, and have almost certainly, instead of saving lives, caused many death? In other words, to what extent can these people be held responsible? What can they be charged with, especially the people at the top? Murder?

For instance, from what I've heard, in mid-May New York, though the daily death toll was past the peak, each day 300 people were still dying of Covid-19. With a 95% reduction, that would have been 15 people a day.

So in Cuomo's case, there have been 285 deaths per day due to blocking a protocol which has shown an extremely high success rate. That is, in 30 days: there have been 8,550 deaths due to policies Cuomo has implemented, policies blocking a protocol shown to be effective.

Question: can NY's Cuomo - and other government officials who have ordered similar things - be charged with mass murder?

It's a major question. What can be done to Cuomo and the many other people like him?

Right now, they are been largely protected by the mainstream media, which shows them positively.

A further question: what can be done to the media representatives disseminating misinformation?

The minimum we can do: compile lists - names and actions. These may be useful in the longer term.

The short term strategy that is likely to have the most effect: mass protests. So far these have not happened. For those, we need mass awareness campaigns. My sense is that we need to get out and get these going.

Question #5: What would the likely impact be on society, if the death rate from Covid-19 (already far lower than in the models we were presented) were cut by approximately 95%? What about if it had been cut by approximately 95% from the start of April - by which time the information had been made widely known and the protocol could have been implemented?

We are told we have a lockdown because of how dangerous it can be to get Covid-19.

If we cut the death rate by a factor of 20 or 40, out goes the justification of a lockdown.

Right now the death rate is close to the death rate for a bad flu.

With a death rate 1/20th or even 1/40th of the death rate of a bad flu, it would be considerably harder to sell people on the need for a lockdown with its huge damage to the economy, as well as its inflicting major psychological damage on a considerable portion of the population.

My guess: there would be no lockdown, not even with massive media fear-mongering.

A QUESTION I'M NOT ADDRESSING. Why has the protocol from Dr Zelenko and other doctors advocating similar treatments, like Didier Raoult (2400 patients treated by April 11), not been generally implemented? The most likely answer: There are bad people around, doing bad things. There is information available on this topic.

But that is not the focus here.

The focus here: ordinary people with ordinary priorities - namely, an effective protocol against Covid-19, and access to that protocol.

Now, quickly, Questions #6, #7, #8, #9. Again, these are important questions. But these are not what would naturally be the concern of ordinary people who care more about a successful treatment for Covid-19, than where it came from. My answers are brief and non-authoritative. Ever so much is available through the media. My sense: I've read enough detective novels to know that what gets the most attention is often a red herring.

Question #6. What was the origin of the virus - was it bats and pangolins? Yes, bats and pangolins were involved. Bats from caves a huge distance away.

Question #7. Does the genetic sequencing of the virus strongly indicate human intervention or was the virus most likely the product of natural mutation? The evidence suggests human intervention, but the media favors the second option, combined with the denigration of those who suggest the likelihood of human intervention.

Question #8. Was the spread started accidentally at a wet market close to the Wuhan lab, a fish market where no bats are to be found, dead or alive? My belief: If it started at the wet fish market, it is not likely to have been accidental, through a bat bought and eaten by some hapless bat-eater.

Question #9. Do we hold the Chinese government and W.H.O. responsible? Answer: Yes, we hold responsible the Chinese Communist Party, which withheld information about the spread of this dangerous virus for at least 6 weeks. And yes, we hold responsible W.H.O., the World Health Organization, and especially its head. For at least 6 weeks, W.H.O. claimed there was no evidence of human to human transmission, though it had information that this was occurring.

But rather than paying so much attention to the C.C.P. and W.H.O., first and foremost we pay attention to, and hold responsible, the people close to home, notably government officials all the way up to presidents and prime ministers, as well as health authorities, who have blocked access to a protocol where there is strong evidence that it is extremely effective.

I'll end with 2 questions.

First, there is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: how do we get access?


Then there is THE BILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: What do we do? What actions do we take?

Getting reliable information is essential. Most people are inundated by fear-mongering mainstream messages. There are improvements most of us can make, in terms of getting reliable information, and passing it on. I subscribe to the best sources I have found, plus I look at what people send me.

But without action, information is useless. So what if we know a tidal wave is coming, if we don't move as fast as we can to higher ground.

Dr Zelenko and Dr Raoult took action in many ways. Dr Zelenko, as I've already noted, searched to see what other doctors were doing. He found a couple of small studies that used different approaches. He used the approaches with his patients. Neither protocol was fully successful. He thought about the findings. He combined the approaches. He came to an almost 100% success rate. Amazing.

What happened next is another crucial step. Both doctors, Zelenko and Raoult - and others as well - did all they could to publicize findings, notably by making made videos to get their findings to the public. Dr Zelenko was also interviewed and wrote an open letter to Trump and some members of his team. He kept reaching out. Dr Raoult made a video that quickly got over 1,000,000 views.

Dr Zelenko has realized that for his findings to be recognized by medical authorities, they needed to be published in a major medical journal. He also recognized they would be attacked, so they needed to be indisputable. With the assistance of 2 expert German researchers, he is presenting the findings in a way that establishes they are indisputably correct. The first set of findings is set to be published by early June.

What can we do about getting access to the 3-part protocol?

We take one step at a time, just as those working to get word out are taking one step at a time - as many steps as possible - and not giving up.

One step you can take: become a member of the Truth Summit movement. (No cost.)

We can get ideas from each other, support from each other, encouragement from each other. We can get resources, both for ourselves and to pass to people who believe the mainstream media, for instance that there is basically nothing we can do until there is a vaccine.

There is power in reliable information.

There is power in numbers.

There is power in connection. There will be a weekly group call for all members, plus a membership group.


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May 23, 2020
updated June 1, 2020


Elsa, A brilliant report. A brilliant convincing argument. This is a high quality report doing what you do best … using logic and facts to make a cogent, persuasive argument! I am proud to know you. 

Kenneth Roberts, Canada


Very, very well written! Some of the best material I've seen since this idiot's debacle started. I shall keep it close, re-read it, and make notes so I can better summarize to others looking for information of this kind. Thank you for your service to human-kind.

Sandy, US


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DISCLAIMER. I'm not a medical practitioner - doctor, nurse, naturopath, alternative health practitioner, chiropractor, etc. I listened to Dr Zelenko, and was so impressed by his results that my natural question was: why is this not being at least tried everywhere? My next response: what can I do?


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Sonya Jay Porter

Elsa is an incredible person, writing the truth for us all on so many subjects - political correctness, the climate, the UN, the EU (or rather, the European Dictatorship) and also on the subject which is one of the most important at the moment - the spread of Islamisation throughout the world.
         May I recommend that you watch the excellent cartoon she has created for young school children on the teachings of Islam.
         And here she goes again, with yet something more! Whatever it is about, whatever she creates, I know it will be worth watching and reading - there is so little genuine Truth out there in the public media, but Elsa is a True Truth Sleuth!

Sonya Jay Porter, who for 25 years has been working with UKIP, the UK Independence Party, to get her country out of the European Union


Gordon Miller

Elsa is a missionary for truth. I have had the pleasure of knowing Elsa for many years now and have admired her steadfast campaign to expose the truth on a range of topics, but for the most part Islam. She has interviewed literally dozens of experts who have studied and had firsthand experience with Islam. All of these, and much more, can be heard on her website. Elsa believes, and I agree, that only when there is open discussion and public debate about the tenets of Islam (i.e. free speech) will the world be free from the Islamic Jihad. In other words, “The truth shall set you free.” Elsa is the ”Truth Sleuth.”

Gordon Miller, long time environmental conservationist, believer in climate science history, challenger of climate models, dissenter on Canada's 1982 Constitution, believer in the dignity of the individual (i.e. the essence of Judeo-Christian values) and advocate of minimal government at the federal level.


Nicole D

Elsa is a spiritual healer and a brilliant writer. She is also for me a pillar of strength and a voice of reason.
          And her music videos are a reminder that there is a beauty in this world too! My favorite clip is There is No More Islam.

Nicole Davidoff, passionate advocate of human rights and freedoms, passionately against any ideology that is totalitarian, like Islam and Communism, cat lover.


Ramachandra Abhyankar

I came to know about Dr. Elsa Schieder ("Elsa") through her interviews with Islam experts Robert Spencer, Bill Warner, Citizen Warrior,  and others. Many people were introduced  to Elsa through her highly informative video for children, about Islam. Through her work, Elsa has helped clear the confusion surrounding Islam, making it possible for people to learn the truth about Islam.
         Islam is just one area; Elsa has sought the truth in many areas, and has a unique talent to clarify issues and motivate people.
          I am especially indebted to Elsa for making me aware of the Islamic Doctrine of  Al-Wala Wal-Bara, which I now know to be the key for understanding Islam. Even after studying several books on Islam, I was not aware of the Islamic doctrine of Al-Wala Wal-Bara. This key doctrine is at the heart of Islam, and makes the other Islamic doctrines of Islam, like Jihad and Sharia, easily comprehensible.
          Elsa has also taught me to not give up even when confronted by obstacles, such as the now ubiquitous censorship by the media.
          Elsa is an inspiration and  an example for all seekers of truth!

Ramachandra B. Abhyankar lives in Terre Haute, Indiana, USA. He is Associate Professor in the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science at Indiana State University, in Terre Haute, Indiana USA.


Mary Andrew

When I came upon Elsa's work (like her great kid's video), I had educated myself on what Islam is, had been galvanised to protest by the horrific slaughter of children in the Manchester bombing, and was also trying to get the truth out on a lot of Facebook sites. But I felt isolated, downcast and daunted by the mountainous size of the problem. I have always been utterly anti-racist, but my friends thought I had become a bigot. I didn't know what to do. 
         Elsa's amazing, inspirational work has become a beacon of light to me, and her friendship has furnished me with the encouragement and support (and occasional rap over the knuckles!) which I desperately needed to become tougher, more confident, and much more active. Moreover, she has introduced me to new friends in the movement (against Sharia, and in support of British sovereignty - connected issues), from whom I am constantly learning, and with whom I can work, and protest, much more effectively. I no longer feel alone; united we stand!  Thank you, Elsa, so much for all you have done to embolden me, and nurture my development. I am truly grateful! 

Mary Andrew recently co-founded a local branch of the new and fast-growing For Britain political party, to work for a voice in mainstream politics. She's just been invited to write for the For Britain website. She still regularly attending protests, now along with great new friends.


Jeff Himmelberger

I admire Elsa’s life-long commitment to activism through ever vigilant truth sleuthing, and I'm thrilled that her next series of interviews will tell untold stories of activists who've been ignored by mainstream media. I'm hopeful that Elsa’s provocative interviews will stretch personal comfort zones, reach wide audiences, and break through brick walls.
          Elsa’s idea of interviewing people who do sustained truth-telling is perfectly aligned with who she is, and these interviews will be AWESOME!

Jeff Himmelberger is a left-leaning liberal from Massachusetts who fortuitously enjoys a deep and enduring friendship with Elsa. For the past fifteen years Elsa has been challenging Jeff’s assumptions and expanding his hard-wired thinking habits.


Elaine Black

I really want to thank you, Elsa, for your deep dedication and endless hard work in trying to right the wrongs. I don’t follow all of your activities, but am very aware of the bigger picture in what you do and know that your heart works to make the world a better place. You deserve every accolade that may never come your way - just know that so many of us think this.

Elaine Black has always believed in ‘principles’: Truth is based on principle and on facts. The great English painter Francis Bacon whose work is often considered controversial for it’s painful distorted imagery, once said "people tend to be offended by facts, or what used to be called truth." These are the tenets of my belief, and to that end, I have run a ’newswire’ service for over a decade to allow others to formulate their knowledge based on exposure to truth and facts rather than lies and distortions.


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